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LD@3 - Scholarship of LD - Shared screen with speaker view
Maria
32:17
Hello everyone. Great to have you here!
Alistair Morey
32:50
Hi everyone. Could I ask you to fill in this form so we know who is here? https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScg2KGx0KGLOAtnF84t7E30wCyMOyL4cVMrdzIearqSzKzgRw/viewform?usp=sf_link
Tom Burns
39:07
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Tom Burns
39:34
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Tom Burns
57:35
We write collaboratively - and we engage in collaborative writing as a method of inquiry - and we would like to get our output recognised in a collaborative PhD - but only individual scholarship recognised as valid...
Silvina Martin
57:41
we also mentioned this!
Maria
59:57
so... communities of practice!
Ian Johnson
01:02:05
I have a problem with 'research' and 'scholarship' being able to truly be separate things.
Heather Lee
01:02:39
Me too! I think we're probably not alone
Gordon Asher
01:04:08
EXCEPT - nearly all temporary part time precarious staff - increasingly huge percentage of academic staff at many/most (all?) institutions - do not have scholarly activity, research and writing in their contracts
Ingeborg van Knippenberg
01:04:09
yes, me too
Tom Burns
01:04:34
true, Gordon...
Gordon Asher
01:04:39
Agree so much Ian - one of main reasons raised that
Maria
01:04:41
… what about if 'research' would mean simply keeping up to date with developments in your field? - so that we can provide the best service to our students, in our role. As ultimately that's what it's for! And 'writing' is ultimately about sharing best practice - i.e. dissemination. this then broadens it out!
Alistair Morey
01:04:46
In my last role we were told we shouldn’t be doing educational research, even though we were teaching new academics and advocating for people to take the scholarship of teaching and learning seriously
Gordon Asher
01:05:21
Yep that resonates strongly Alistair
Carina Buckley
01:07:27
Perhaps they believed you'd been born with that knowledge, Alistair...
Gordon Asher
01:07:46
:)
Ian Johnson
01:08:13
Heather, it's where we're kind of a discipline yet 'not' a discipline!
Maria
01:08:19
fantastic point @ingeborg!
Silvina Martin
01:09:20
I agree and I think that is the point where LD is at
Silvina Martin
01:09:41
but there is an opportunity and we are getting there!
Alistair Morey
01:09:50
I was also in American Studies Alicja so that resonates!
Alicja Syska
01:10:18
Amazing - didn't know that, Alistair!
Rally Kantcheva
01:10:52
@Sandra - really interesting example
Gordon Asher
01:10:55
Many bad reasons for that 'move' ???
Gordon Asher
01:11:24
Yes, as to the 'cracks' it can open up for us and others!
Heather Lee
01:11:40
My apologies: I have to go and teach. Thank you everyone: really interesting and informative: food for thought. Thank you Steve et al for this topic.
Carina Buckley
01:11:51
Thanks Heather!
Ian Johnson
01:12:12
To Sandra's point … quite often staff seem to 'take' advice from Learning Developers better than they do from Educational Developers, because we can play up the side of 'we know what students struggle with' rather than 'we know what YOU struggle with'. It's two sides of the same coin really isn't it?
Silvina Martin
01:12:44
I agree!
Rally Kantcheva
01:12:54
@Ian - 100% agree
Tom Burns
01:12:57
Remember the #Take5 blog always looking to publish your extr day's work!!
Gordon Asher
01:13:30
that's a 'very generous kind and reasonable' take as to why senior management don't read academic scholarship???
Alina Congreve
01:13:43
And a blog and social media activity can help drive traffic to the academic paper and encourage people to read it.
Tom Burns
01:13:58
YES, Alina!
Tom Burns
01:14:59
We should also cite each other...
Sam Dougherty
01:15:04
That sounds really useful
Gordon Asher
01:15:28
Myself, and I strongly suspect others here, have experience with running 'academic' Writing Retreats, if something like that might be of interest at some point?
Ian Johnson
01:15:43
True - how many people come into LD without any encouragement from their HEI to do research and scholarship, and simply don't know where to start, so don't start?!
Tom Burns
01:15:46
Excellent suggestions, Alicja!
Silvia Rossi
01:15:47
These are brilliant ideas! I especially like the idea of bibliographies and a podcast
Alina Congreve
01:16:09
Earlier today looked at a paper I co-wrote that was published 11 months ago… Has 1,660 downloads… others published about the same time in the journal have less than 100… I’m not sure the paper is better or more topical than theirs but more to draw attention to it - blogs, taking up conference opportunities, social media.
Gordon Asher
01:16:16
TOM - and I keep wanting to run one with folks doing collaborative writing!
Rally Kantcheva
01:17:13
Brilliant ideas :) I really like the podcast option - you can shut your eyes for a little bit at the end of the day after staring at the screen for so many hours, but still learn something new.
Silvina Martin
01:17:22
Yes! A new mentoring scheme is soon going to be available. Watch this space!
Ian Johnson
01:17:48
People can join our Research Community of Practice if they'd like informal opportunities to present / discuss / get feedback on bits of R&S. Please email me if you'd be interested to come along to an online meeting to see what it's all about - ian.johnson@port.ac.uk
Steve Rooney
01:17:52
Great suggestion, Gordon!
Ingeborg van Knippenberg
01:18:41
Great ideas here, I look forward to seeing more. Apologies folks, I have to go take my cat to the vet. Great to meet you all, some thought provoking discussion here. Hope to see you again.
Steve Rooney
01:18:41
Yes Nel - the existing support structures need to be championed too
Alina Congreve
01:19:12
Also on funding…. it is challenging to get funding for scholarship in this field
Alina Congreve
01:20:31
And the funding often seems to go to people with very established records in the field… difficult for early and mid career folks to access.
Gordon Asher
01:21:02
that's a stern word limit Carina
Maria
01:21:05
@Alina and all - this gives us an idea - to have this reflected in our funding call
Alina Congreve
01:22:12
Thanks Maria - someone who already has a large government grant of 500K does not need a small bit of seed funding too! There also does not seem to be a middle ground between 1K grants and very large grants to help take forward medium sized projects...
Tom Burns
01:22:25
And of course, JLDHE is running a reading group!
Maria
01:22:29
Alina - noted!
Steve Rooney
01:22:43
Thanks so much for contributing so generously and insightfully, everyone. Lovely to see you all. We will be writing up the notes from the session to share with everyone.
Gordon Asher
01:23:04
thanks all - guid tae virtually see youse!
Maria
01:24:09
There is also reviewing opportunity with the journal! :D
Ian Johnson
01:25:13
To those who came later, Alistair asked everyone to fill in this form - please do so to make sure you are kept in the loop. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScg2KGx0KGLOAtnF84t7E30wCyMOyL4cVMrdzIearqSzKzgRw/viewform?usp=sf_linkI need to go, thank you all for all the ideas, was great to have this chat!
Silvia Rossi
01:26:33
Excellent, inspiring conversation today, everyone. Thank you so much!
Rally Kantcheva
01:26:35
Many thanks everyone for a great session :)
Ruth Bowles
01:26:47
Thanks so much for organising this!
Rally Kantcheva
01:26:59
I have to go to another meeting - take care and keep up the good work :)
Carina Buckley
01:27:11
Thank you all for so many great contributions!
Nina Kearney
01:27:22
Thanks so much, great session
Tom Burns
01:27:32
Many thanks - it has been so positive to have this conversation together...
Silvina Martin
01:27:42
Thank you all for coming and for the amazing contributions!
Nel Boswood
01:27:50
Thanks for all the ideas and support. Great conversation and good to see you all.
Sam Dougherty
01:28:12
Thanks, that was really interesting! Plenty to think about.!
Sandie Donnelly
01:28:17
thanks everyone
orodrigu
01:28:18
thanks!
Deborah
01:28:18
Thanks everyone. Really interesting!
Lesley Kelly
01:28:19
Thanks everyone.